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<h3>Topic: <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html">meeting 2020.03.17</a></h3>

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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190894281" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190894281">(Mar 17 2020 at 18:49)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="1380">@WG-learning</span> meeting in ~45min (if I'm not mistaken).</p>
<p>Here is the master doc: <a href="https://hackmd.io/nr5Ww319TnWM2HL_cg5I-w" target="_blank" title="https://hackmd.io/nr5Ww319TnWM2HL_cg5I-w">https://hackmd.io/nr5Ww319TnWM2HL_cg5I-w</a><br>
Here is the agenda doc: <a href="https://hackmd.io/75x4U2e1Qp2f-lg7V09nGA" target="_blank" title="https://hackmd.io/75x4U2e1Qp2f-lg7V09nGA">https://hackmd.io/75x4U2e1Qp2f-lg7V09nGA</a> (feel free to add things)<br>
Here is the overview chapter doc as it stands now: <a href="https://hackmd.io/j8EsXGI1RiOnjZSiSRf3ng?view" target="_blank" title="https://hackmd.io/j8EsXGI1RiOnjZSiSRf3ng?view">https://hackmd.io/j8EsXGI1RiOnjZSiSRf3ng?view</a></p>
<p>I suppose we can start by giving a status update of where all of our efforts are?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190898354" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> bjorn3 <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190898354">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>I added some comments on "Rustc Overview"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190899493" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190899493">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:29)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="1380">@WG-learning</span> meeting time, <span aria-label="wave" class="emoji emoji-1f44b" role="img" title="wave">:wave:</span> if you're participating on this meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190899633" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190899633">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>let's try to update the <a href="https://hackmd.io/nr5Ww319TnWM2HL_cg5I-w" target="_blank" title="https://hackmd.io/nr5Ww319TnWM2HL_cg5I-w">todo section of the master doc</a> with the things done</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190899774" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190899774">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>it seems like ...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190899795" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190899795">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<div class="codehilite"><pre><span></span>- [x] [@Chris Simpkins] Write a blog post about the Overview chapter effort
    - The idea would be like a call for action, for people to help us shape a good Overview chapter
    - Could be something like ... we are writing an Overview chapter, here is an idea of what could look like, please give your insights on things you would include
    - [Blog post outline / drafts](https://hackmd.io/dXf8Ydq4R4SDrbY1VpPfUA)
- [x] [@spastorino] Changing name to rustc-dev-guide or rust-compiler-dev-guide (rcdg?) as per https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-guide/issues/470?
- [x] [@mark-i-am] Document our sprint like process
- [x] [@spastorino] Schedule meetings for the next couple of months
- [x] [@spastorino] Schedule a lecture about monomorphization/type memory layout with @oli
    - @oli doesn&#39;t have time ATM for this :(
</pre></div>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190899806" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190899806">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>that's done</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190899867" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Chris Simpkins <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190899867">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>Have we completed everything in <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-dev-guide/issues/602" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-dev-guide/issues/602">https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-dev-guide/issues/602</a>?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190899882" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Chris Simpkins <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190899882">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ok to check all and close?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190899931" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190899931">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="262810">@Chris Simpkins</span> I think we still need to fix toolstate and update the submodule</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190899989" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190899989">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>And I don't think I ever announced it on internals... should I do that now?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190900032" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190900032">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, let's do it now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190900039" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190900039">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>what's pending is not very important I think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190900092" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190900092">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>I would very much like to fix toolstate though</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190900165" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190900165">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>yep</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190900179" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190900179">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>about the pending lectures</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190900231" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190900231">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:34)</a>:</h4>
<div class="codehilite"><pre><span></span>- [ ] [@mark-i-am] Schedule a lecture about codegen mir -&gt; llvm IR with @nagisa
- [ ] [@spastorino] Schedule a lecture about Parallel with @nikomatsakis, @simulacrum or @Alex Crichton
    - Everyone agreed that would be nice, the working group is a bit on hold for now on the other hand
    - @simulacrum said that he can answer question but can&#39;t come up with a general explanation
- [ ] [@spastorino] Schedule a lecture about LLVM with @Alex Crichton
    - Alex can do a lecture with maybe not really up to date content
    - mw can do a Q&amp;A session
    - asked nikic too
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190900265" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190900265">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think parallel won't happen for now given the current status of it, if it can happen at some point I'm going to bring it up so I'd just close that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190900300" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190900300">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>and about LLVM with Alex, I think I can talk to him and have the not very updated lecture, from there we can update it I think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190900324" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190900324">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>because other people I've pinged doesn't seem to be available</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190900438" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190900438">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>do you agree with this?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190900479" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190900479">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ok, I just announced the rustc-dev-guide move on internals</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190900622" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190900622">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198054">@mark-i-m</span> about the codegen-mir -&gt; llvm IR with nagisa lecture?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190900641" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190900641">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>should we mark it done?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190900662" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190900662">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>I think parallel won't happen for now given the current status of it, if it can happen at some point I'm going to bring it up so I'd just close that</p>
</blockquote>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190900699" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190900699">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190900711" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190900711">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>One thing that might be good is to create a skeleton and note down the little I know:</p>
<ul>
<li>I vaguely believe the strategy (at least at first) was to change <code>RefCell</code> to <code>Mutex</code> to get initial thread safety</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190900728" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190900728">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<ul>
<li>However there were a bunch of invariants that needed to be audited and this was hard</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190900747" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190900747">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<ul>
<li>Also, there was a lot of lock contention</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190900796" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190900796">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<ul>
<li>And query cycles IIRC</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190900862" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190900862">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>well that may be a good way to tackle it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190900876" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190900876">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">Santiago Pastorino</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190900622" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190900622">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> about the codegen-mir -&gt; llvm IR with nagisa lecture?</p>
</blockquote>
<p><span aria-label="point up" class="emoji emoji-1f446" role="img" title="point up">:point_up:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190900896" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190900896">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">Santiago Pastorino</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190900622" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190900622">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> about the codegen-mir -&gt; llvm IR with nagisa lecture?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>So, I've finally got around to looking at the notes nagisa sent last time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190900906" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190900906">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>And I compile some rough chapters</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190900917" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190900917">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>which got merged last week</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190900961" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190900961">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, I saw that but I meant, I guess a lecture won't happen</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190900967" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190900967">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>we may not need it?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190900972" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190900972">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think nagisa indicated that they were too busy/not interested in doing a full lecture, but I think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190900979" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190900979">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190900986" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190900986">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>so let's close that too, right?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190901000" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190901000">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>we can compile a hackmd with the list of questions/holes and try to incrementally get answers</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190901050" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190901050">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>agreed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190901084" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190901084">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>let me close the lecture thing and please add that item to the todo</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190901142" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190901142">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>alright, closed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190901152" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190901152">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198054">@mark-i-m</span> please add the tasks you're mentioning</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190901158" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Chris Simpkins <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190901158">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>Can we begin to open incremental PR's on the Guide and have expertise fill in details for the structure that we lay out?  The open PR approach seems to receive more input/feedback/engagement than hackmd docs.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190901173" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190901173">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190901175" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190901175">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>definitely</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190901193" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190901193">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<div class="codehilite"><pre><span></span>- [ ] Collect a set of PRs that help understanding some parts of the compiler
</pre></div>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190901205" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190901205">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>about this, I've made zero progress</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190901253" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190901253">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>so the last and main thing to discuss is ...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190901272" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190901272">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<div class="codehilite"><pre><span></span>- [ ] Write an Overview chapter
    - Overview of the whole picture of the compiler. Main components, what they do and where they live. Main data structures used along and more or less what they are about.
    - [Overview Outline](https://hackmd.io/j8EsXGI1RiOnjZSiSRf3ng?view)
    - Overview blog post (coming soon...)
</pre></div>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190901293" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Chris Simpkins <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190901293">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>re: <code>[@Chris Simpkins] Write a blog post about the Overview chapter effort</code>: </p>
<p>I have a draft but haven't had time to shape it up into something ready for a PR yet.  I'm stuck on how we intend to approach the Overview.  Do we have a sense about whether this will be organized around source structure vs. compile process stages vs. another approach?  Do we want to ask people to weigh in on <em>how</em> it is structured?  I've done a quick read through of the entire dev-guide and am not sure about the approach that we will take.  There is a good deal of the Guide that indicates that it is outdated or missing information at this stage.  Need feedback on this.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190901296" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190901296">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>sorry, I'm a bit slow on my laptop, rather than my nice desktop setup in my office</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190901515" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190901515">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="262810">Chris Simpkins</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190901293" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190901293">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>re: <code>[@Chris Simpkins] Write a blog post about the Overview chapter effort</code>: </p>
<p>I have a draft but haven't had time to shape it up into something ready for a PR yet.  I'm stuck on how we intend to approach the Overview.  Do we have a sense about whether this will be organized around source structure vs. compile process stages vs. another approach?  Do we want to ask people to weigh in on <em>how</em> it is structured?  I've done a quick read through of the entire dev-guide and am not sure about the approach that we will take.  There is a good deal of the Guide that indicates that it is outdated or missing information at this stage.  Need feedback on this.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>yeap</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190901524" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190901524">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>does anyone have any other update related to the overview?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190901541" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190901541">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>to be honest I'd need to go through it again</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190901740" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190901740">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:49)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">Santiago Pastorino</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190901193" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190901193">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<div class="codehilite"><pre><span></span>- [ ] Collect a set of PRs that help understanding some parts of the compiler
</pre></div>


</blockquote>
<p>Perhaps the right approach is to create an issue where we can dump things until we have enough?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190901773" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190901773">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>sold!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190901781" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190901781">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>:)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190901817" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190901817">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>did you make notes of the outdated stuff <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="262810">@Chris Simpkins</span></p>



<a name="190901940"></a>
<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190901940" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190901940">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190901740" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190901740">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">Santiago Pastorino</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190901193" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190901193">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<div class="codehilite"><pre><span></span>- [ ] Collect a set of PRs that help understanding some parts of the compiler
</pre></div>


</blockquote>
<p>Perhaps the right approach is to create an issue where we can dump things until we have enough?</p>
</blockquote>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-dev-guide/issues/619" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-dev-guide/issues/619">https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-dev-guide/issues/619</a></p>



<a name="190901957"></a>
<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190901957" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Chris Simpkins <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190901957">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="119529">Tshepang Lekhonkhobe</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190901817" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190901817">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>did you make notes of the outdated stuff</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Unfortunately not, but I can do so on another run through.  Some issues that come immediately to mind are the sections on the overview of the structure of the compiler source that has an out of date diagram after recent refactor</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190901979" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190901979">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="262810">Chris Simpkins</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190901293" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190901293">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>re: <code>[@Chris Simpkins] Write a blog post about the Overview chapter effort</code>: </p>
<p>I have a draft but haven't had time to shape it up into something ready for a PR yet.  I'm stuck on how we intend to approach the Overview.  Do we have a sense about whether this will be organized around source structure vs. compile process stages vs. another approach?  Do we want to ask people to weigh in on <em>how</em> it is structured?  I've done a quick read through of the entire dev-guide and am not sure about the approach that we will take.  There is a good deal of the Guide that indicates that it is outdated or missing information at this stage.  Need feedback on this.</p>
</blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="262810">@Chris Simpkins</span> I suspect that it will be some mix of all of those...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190901998" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190901998">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>It's a good question though</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190902020" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190902020">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>I need to go through our notes and read it again</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190902139" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190902139">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>Unfortunately not, but I can do so on another run through. Some issues that come immediately to mind are the sections on the overview of the structure of the compiler source that has an out of date diagram after recent refactor</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Yeah, there is _a lot_ of refactoring going on these days, and I suspect there will always be some part of the guide out of date</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190902152" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Chris Simpkins <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190902152">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>Worth pulling together our Overview outline and then publishing the blog post with a link that points to the outline?  Could be a WIP document that readers can weigh in on. I initially thought that we could point to a Zulip thread, but perhaps that is a better approach.</p>



<a name="190902197"></a>
<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190902197" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190902197">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>But somehow, I think it still manages to be in-of-date _enough_ to be helpful</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190902258" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190902258">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:53)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190902139" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190902139">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<blockquote>
<p>Unfortunately not, but I can do so on another run through. Some issues that come immediately to mind are the sections on the overview of the structure of the compiler source that has an out of date diagram after recent refactor</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Yeah, there is _a lot_ of refactoring going on these days, and I suspect there will always be some part of the guide out of date</p>
</blockquote>
<p>well maybe we will start having less given the major changes proposal idea</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190902374" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190902374">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>does that idea encourage less refactoring</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190902419" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Chris Simpkins <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190902419">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190902197" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190902197">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>But somehow, I think it still manages to be in-of-date _enough_ to be helpful</p>
</blockquote>
<p>It definitely wasn't intended to be a criticism.  That is the nature of manually updated documentation and IIUC the rationale for this WG's existence! <span aria-label="slight smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="slight smile">:slight_smile:</span>   I am just thinking through what structure makes sense for an overview.</p>



<a name="190902439"></a>
<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190902439" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190902439">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="119529">Tshepang Lekhonkhobe</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190902374" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190902374">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>does that idea encourage less refactoring</p>
</blockquote>
<p>nope</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190902448" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190902448">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119529">@Tshepang Lekhonkhobe</span>  It basically requires that major compiler changes are accompanies by rustc-dev-guide changes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190902484" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190902484">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok 5 minutes left</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190902518" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190902518">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess we should talk about what to do during this next sprint!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190902555" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190902555">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think we should focus on overview doc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190902556" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190902556">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:55)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190902448" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190902448">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="119529">Tshepang Lekhonkhobe</span>  It basically requires that major compiler changes are accompanies by rustc-dev-guide changes</p>
</blockquote>
<p>oh, I see... it was more about being up-to-date than about refactoring</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190902559" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190902559">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>which other than the tasking we already have layed out is how to move forward the overview chapter</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190902742" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190902742">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>sprint is how long</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190902743" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190902743">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>thoughts?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190902800" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190902800">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:57)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="119529">Tshepang Lekhonkhobe</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190902742" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190902742">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>sprint is how long</p>
</blockquote>
<p>2 weeks</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190902859" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190902859">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>I will make a doc for the "holes" in backend that we can try to fill in gradually</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190902933" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190902933">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>would be happy to help with overview chapter too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190902936" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190902936">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>Also, we should open an issue to collect PRs that are good examples of things</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190902967" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190902967">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>and publicize that issue for t-compiler people to add their own examples</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190903044" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190903044">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>Thoughts?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190903123" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190903123">(Mar 17 2020 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190902936" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190902936">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Also, we should open an issue to collect PRs that are good examples of things</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I've already done that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190903139" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190903139">(Mar 17 2020 at 20:00)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-dev-guide/issues/619" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-dev-guide/issues/619">rustc-dev-guide#619</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190903221" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190903221">(Mar 17 2020 at 20:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>risk with that approach is that PRs quickly become outdated, making changes to code that may be already be moved around by the time the PR is read</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190903230" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190903230">(Mar 17 2020 at 20:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>is that ok?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190903310" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190903310">(Mar 17 2020 at 20:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess it's probably better than nothing... mostly the PRs will be bit-rotty, but I think things don't usually change enough that they would be unhelpful</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190903351" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190903351">(Mar 17 2020 at 20:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>agreed with <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198054">@mark-i-m</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190903440" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190903440">(Mar 17 2020 at 20:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>time is up, unsure if we have reached an idea about what to focus on related to overview exactly</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190903684" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190903684">(Mar 17 2020 at 20:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>Let's create a thread on zulip and aim to have something to publish on the blog by next meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190903697" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190903697">(Mar 17 2020 at 20:04)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190903706" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190903706">(Mar 17 2020 at 20:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>We can discuss on zulip about what the status of the chapter is and decide what needs to be done before we publish</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190903949" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190903949">(Mar 17 2020 at 20:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>Oh, also here is the backend holes doc: <a href="https://hackmd.io/@ux-jKBcgRTSHsH042VF3BA/S1Q6hoCB8/edit" target="_blank" title="https://hackmd.io/@ux-jKBcgRTSHsH042VF3BA/S1Q6hoCB8/edit">https://hackmd.io/@ux-jKBcgRTSHsH042VF3BA/S1Q6hoCB8/edit</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190904101" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190904101">(Mar 17 2020 at 20:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ok thanks everyone! <span aria-label="wave" class="emoji emoji-1f44b" role="img" title="wave">:wave:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190904125" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190904125">(Mar 17 2020 at 20:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think that was a productive meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190905684" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Chris Simpkins <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190905684">(Mar 17 2020 at 20:20)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190903684" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190903684">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Let's create a thread on zulip and aim to have something to publish on the blog by next meeting</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Here is the blog post thread: <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/The.20Rustc.20Overview.3A.20blog.20post" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/The.20Rustc.20Overview.3A.20blog.20post">https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/The.20Rustc.20Overview.3A.20blog.20post</a>  </p>
<p>Will update the blog post based on the conversation today.  I should be able to do it this week. If anyone has additional feedback, please let me know</p>



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